Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: Walk or Stand Your Ground??????
Let see how many forum users actually walk.
Must admit i cut the case off one on Saturday and stood my ground. I've never been a walker. 4 weeks ago i was set on 37 and got a shocking lbw decision (pitched well outside leg and wouldn't have hit another set). So the way i look at it Saturday evened things up.
In an ideal world everyone would walk and umpires wouldnt make mistakes. We have some very good umpires in our league, but there is also a number of poor umpires, some clearly do not know the rules of the game.
I know even the best umpires make mistakes, but some are making 3 or 4 in a game.
I don't buy this "it evens itself out over the season" rubbish. That implies that everything in the universe balances out eventually, and we all know that life ain't like that - so why is it different on a cricket field?
Even if the umpires are poor, we ain't got a game without them, so to me it's not acceptable to stand there when we feel like it. You get a bad decision - you go off the field and chalk it down to experience - shit happens from time to time.
Anyone who cheats like you've described FNP will get a volley from me if it happens in a game I'm playing in. You may or may not be bothered by that - I don't care about what cheats think about me!
Your choice to say "I'm not a walker" - just as it's mine to walk. I'm happy with how I play the game - I couldn't play it your way. _________________ 34 years and not even a thank you....
So someone steals your wallet, does that mean you have to become a thief? Cheating has a direct impact on the current game not what may or may not happen 4 weeks later. I'm looking forward to playing Mirfield this weekend and hope we don't have to put this to the test.
So someone steals your wallet, does that mean you have to become a thief? Cheating has a direct impact on the current game not what may or may not happen 4 weeks later.
Jesus, you sound like an anti-piracy advertisement. _________________ Despite the cost of living, it remains popular.
Clayers, I dont see myself as a cheat. I wouldn't claim a catch if I grounded it or if I stepped over the line, I just see the not walking thing as "part of the game". Im sure you walkers will not see it my way, just as I dont see it your way.
Over the years ive maybe got away with 5 or 6, Where as ive got dozens of bad decisions. So you're right it doesn't even up!!!
Its a shame your 2nd team aren't all as honest as you Clayers. Last season I was given out caught behind when i hit the ground. And guess what, they didn't call me back, even though only young Easty appealed and the rest of the boys knew I hadn't hit it.
Please dont patronise me about the impact on the game Heinz, ive played since i was 9 years old. Truth is players not walking has always gone on and will go on for as long as the game is played. You walk I dont, get over it.
BTW, I got S*it loads of grief from the fielders on Saturday, and you're right that doesn't bother me. I'd expect it.
Last edited by FatNonPro on Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total
So someone steals your wallet, does that mean you have to become a thief? Cheating has a direct impact on the current game not what may or may not happen 4 weeks later.
Jesus, you sound like an anti-piracy advertisement.
I've nothing against pirates, in fact i used to quite enjoy Captain Pugwash as a kid.
What do we pay an umpire for? to give decisions ... some wrong some right. I played in the game FNP was talking about and was fielding in slip. His bat hit the ground but there was two noises(I thought) and ump gave him out ... He told us after the game he didn't hit it and that was fair enough. I think if we start making decisions for umpires it can cause confusement and make the umpire look stupid .. let players play and umpires umpire.
Also a question for walkers ... last game of season need to win to get promotion .. 20 to win 8 wickets down and you get a nick to keeper ... umpire shakes his head do u walk?
Unfortunately though when umpires get it wrong everyone starts slagging them off, umpires have to be sure the batter has hit the ball and if in doubt give them the benefit whereas the batter usually knows if he's hit it.
And yes i'd walk, even needing 2 to win 9 wickets down.
If I've got a nick to the keeper I'm already walking off VOR - no need for the ump to shake his head.
The circumstances of the game make no difference - how can they if you're a walker? It would be hypocrictical to stand there _________________ 34 years and not even a thank you....
I'm not a walker, umpire is there to do his job just as I'm there to do mine. Couldn't care less what stick I may get from fielders, heard it all before...
I feel that over the course of a season any decisions I got away with batting would make up for the odd LBW or snick behind that didn't go my way when bowling... _________________ BOSH WEDGE
I am not sure all walkers are such honest gentlemen as Clayers & Heinz .. some I think play to the situation of the game ... like I have got 60 I have had enough ... or I have got 0 I am not walking for anything ...
its easy to talk here lads but cricket is a practical game i dont think there are many players who would walk whether thats on the international scene or in any league like the hccl. we got lots of talkers in this league. imagine its a cup final (sorry a few of u probably havent played in one u need 10 runs its last wicket u edge it and umpire says not out) face it you would deny all knowledge . _________________ dont ball him bad balls,,, he hits the good ones for four....
If you're not sure if you've feathered one, fair enough, wait for the umpire, but if its spun the bat round i your hands and you still stand there you are cheating. _________________ Tin Man
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